This protectorate was probably the origin of the Roman conception of Illyria. Furthermore, all Slavs formerly lived in the Balkans and were known by the ancient authors as the Illyrians. In Balkans: Illyrians and Thracians …peoples dominated the area: the Illyrians to the west and the Thracians to the east of the great historical divide defined by the Morava and Vardar river valleys. For more than 7 centuries Illyrians and Romans (i.e. They intermingled with the Greeks and gave them the Dionysian and Orphean cults,… свиђања. Taking the sample is simple and painless and can be done at home. The origin of the Albanians has long been a matter of debate within scholarship. Since the 3rd century BC there were also constant conflicts between Illyrians and Romans. Bogoslav Šulek (1816.-1895.) There is evidence to back up the Slavic migration. This is an archive of past discussions. "Illyrian" here was not an ethnic attribution, but denoted the regional origin. Nothing illyrian about them. And Yugoslavians and Albanians are the descendants of the Illyrians, Romans, and Slavs. During the Bronze Age certain techniques of pottery production and burial forms (burials) spread from the Balkans to southern Italy. Because of their semi-legendary character, the Illyrians were well suited as a starting point for national identity building. There are great onomastic and cultural differences between the different peoples in Illyria. North of the core area of Illyrian settlement, tribes were widespread which were also attributed to the Illyrians, but which also show characteristics of other ancient peoples. ok... Anyways this is not the point. I wish fast resolution of the situation there. Albanian is an Indo-Germanic language, which represents a branch of the language in its own right. Most Slavs I know here don't believe in Covid as well. In the 4th century three dioceses of the new territorial-administrative structure of the Roman Empire were created in the Pannonian Balkan region (Pannonia, Moesia, Thracia): they belonged to the Illyricum, one of the four prefectures created by Emperor Constantine. The point is Slavs need to get serious. & Pro. < Talk:Illyrians. > Focus > Western Mediterranean (Eu), Pro. Also the whole Northern Balkans was abandoned before the Slavs came because of Avar raids. The earliest mentions of the Illyrians are found in Hecataios of Miletus (5th century B.C.). Illyrians or slaves, not Slavs! Italian colonists, Roman administrators and merchants) were in contact. The tribes of that region are described in the reports of Roman writers as "Illyrians in the true sense". Since time immemorial the Illyrians have appeared as opponents and competitors first of the Greeks and later of the Macedonians. The Illyrians challenged the Romans with their Adriatic fleet in 229 BC. The Illyrians were the ancestors of modern day Albanians and historians claimed that they originated in central europe in modern day Germany and migrated to the Balkans where they intermixed with the greeks and then modern day Albanians came out of that mixture. Ancient Illyrians, Thraks, etc were names for Slavs. Most South Slavs are 50/50. Some reached a higher level of development: the difference in civilization was particularly great between the coastal peoples and the tribes in the interior. Ordered by 16% of customers for an origins analysis. My Deda's bro in BiH died of cancer. A central research problem is the question of an Illyrian tribe, because from the beginning the word "Illyrians" has been used by the ancient authors in the meaning of a tribal association. Vikings Also I agree Albanians come from the Caucasus Pol. Two great misconceptions, mostly malicious (nationalist-chauvinist-driven), reign the historical sciences in the western-Balkans for the last two and a half centuries. The legacy of the Romanized Illyrians are more than 600 loan words of Latin origin in the Albanian vocabulary. By the time of Late Antiquity, the Illyrian inhabitants of the Adriatic coast were largely Romanised. A world map shows your different origins. > Focus > Ancient Mediterranean, Pro. ^ the name Slav has many negative connotations stemming from their enemies, ROMANS! written and online after approx. it rather denoted the whole northern and central Balkan - from the Rhaetian Alps to Macedonia. Do not edit the contents of this page. The saksan employees wrote "covid". Albgrots try to sell the notion of the Slavs as being Asian and .... Mongols like this Tatar "sokol" claims. Autosomally, Albanians and Greeks and Italians, even Bulgarians to a lesser extent, are largely Neolithic. As a rule, they owed their rise to their military prowess and, through internal reforms and successes in foreign policy, contributed greatly to resolving the crisis of the third century. 9 govori o ovome. The evidence that's Slavs killed and burned Illyrians is overwhelming. The Illyrians (Ancient Greek: Ἰλλυριοί, Illyrioi; Latin: Illyrii or Illyri) were a group of Indo-European tribes, who inhabited the western Balkans in classical antiquity. Almost nothing is known about the Illyrian language; in Hesychios only one word is defined as Illyrian, while over 100 are defined as Macedonian. Administratively, numerous tribes and peoples who had no ethnic connection to the Illyrians (Liburni, Histri) were classified as Illyricum and called Illyrian because they lived in Illyria. Serbs should only go to Bulgaria. So aren't Albanians a Germanic peoples then? The Roman conquest of the Balkan Peninsula and the establishment of the province of Illyricum accelerated the indiscriminate use of the name Illyrians. Between 800-1000 A.C the Albanian regions were part of the mighty Bulgarian Kingdom. All subsequent Roman conquests, first the rest of the Illyrian kingdom, then the northern coastal regions and the Damaltine hinterland, were gradually added to Illyria. ), Other History Topics (Arts,Sociality.etc), History Forum - Ancient Mediterraneans & West Asia, History Forum - Ancient 'Haimos' (Balkans), Provocative Politics and Propaganda or Deliberate spreading of ideas, info, or rumor, Pro. Above all Albanian, but also some non-Albanian researchers are of the opinion that the Albanian language is the successor of Illyrian. Excerpt from the Byzantian cronicle states that during visit to Emperor Vasilis Basil II "the Bulgar-Slayer" (Βασίλειος Β΄ ὁ Βουλγαροκτόνος). > Focus > Middle East (NAfr/WAsia), Pro. With the Bulgarians, it is the Thracians, Romans, Greeks, and Slavs. Illyria was economically attractive because of its mineral resources, which included precious metals such as gold, silver and copper, as well as iron and the forests. The term Illyrians is understood differently and used inconsistently. However, the Illyrians were hardly known in the Greek world, because the Greek colonization on the East Adriatic coast started only very limited or late. Iliri su slavenskog roda i jezika, povijest Ilira je povijest naših drevnih slavenskih predaka Albanians are not descendants of the Illyrians and to suggest that they are is absolute joke. In addition to the online result, you will receive a noble certificate of origin in a picture frame and other documents in an elegant folder. > Focus > Ancient Balkans / Haimos, Pro. In South Illyria an Illyrian kingdom was established in the 5th century BC. 6 - 8 weeks. The Illyrians on the Adriatic coast gradually acculturated, adopted Roman ways of life and, in the course of generations, also made a change of language to Latin. ^^^^ church slavonic and the bulgarian empire, In the meantime in the real world : Greece indeed has a lot of Jakavica toponyms (Bulgarian) but Alb is full of Ekavica... lol. Of letters with diacritics, only the letters č, ž, š and ě are retained. Iliri su slavenskog roda i jezika, povijest Ilira je povijest naših drevnih slavenskih predaka I wish this thread not to be under my name since I never did started. The term "Illyrians" is a collective name for an Indo-European group of peoples in the countries of the eastern Adriatic coast from Epirus to the Morawa and the middle Danube and in the northwest of the Adriatic Sea the Illyrian Venetes, which are divided into many individual tribes and are related to the Thracians. Pol. You can contact your relatives by email to find out more about your family and background. Stop dealing with haters. These attacks were directed against various tribes and peoples who later entered the province of Illyricum, especially the Histri, who were already subjugated in 177 BC. ), a land that stretched from the upper parts of the Adriatic region down to the Rhyzonian Gulf and the land of the Ardiaei, between the sea and the Pannonian peoples. They formed one of the three main groups of Indo-European populations in the Balkans prior to 2000 BC, along with Thracians and Greeks. A Mucus Sample suffices to get a sample of your DNA. Ulf bro, most Greekos think the same, simply the country was shutdown for no reason. The geographical distribution of these regional cultures reflects the differentiation of the Illyrian tribes. 1.7K likes. Most likely, although the Illyrians are related to the Albanians of today, they are only one of several elements of the ethnogenesis of this people. With the Celts in the Balkans there were also warlike conflicts, but in some regions also mixed populations. Click here to remove banner ads from this forum. Jews Due to printing difficulties, carons are used instead of tildes. For information about Illyrian Prehistory and Bronze Age see: Illyrians #Origins In fact, the ancestors of the Illyrian emperors belonged - as far as can be seen from the written sources - to the more or less strongly Romanised provincial population of the Danube countries. The distribution area of the Illyrians extended in the northwest of the Balkan region, from the Adriatic coast of Dalmatia to Macedonia. the Illyrian peoples Dardani and Paeones are mentioned as allies of the Trojans. The conflicts dragged on for a long period of time and only in 168 BC did the Illyrian kingdom capitulate. Only around shkoder area Slavs burned every little Illyrian city, 40 cities in total. false-Greeks hate Serbs. Albanian is an ethnicity previously known as Illyrians, and later Albans (this is why we are still known as Alban-ians). Watch them spread the disease? That's why nowadays Slavs want to become Illyrians, and Bulgarians are wannabe Macedonians. But already in the "Iliad" of Homer (8th century B.C.) Pre-Indo-Germanic populations were involved in the process of Illyrian ethnogenesis, which entered into a union with the oldest Indo-Germanic immigrants. Serbs must go to parties over weekend, hence the protests, students are also representatives of classic mob, money wasted on education of fools, Rexo never was & never will be a Pelasgian, Big earthquake in Croatia, you could feel it in most of Serbia too. You will know the haplogroup and migrations (prehistoric time), the ancient tribe (antiquity) as well as the region of origin (Middle Ages) of the paternal line (men) OR the maternal line (women). Jul 23, 2008 #13 Lol and people in the Republic of macedonia are Macedonian like Alexander.. rep of Macedonia are Slavs, Macedon is in northern Greece. It is based mainly on similarities between Illyrian and Albanian language and the high density of old Balkan toponyms in the region in question. In general, the Illyrians were enemies of the Macedonians since they had invaded Macedonia around 393 BC. You will receive a list of genetic relatives in your online result. So..... the way is not to accept all nations bla bla bla ... ^ Brate, we all began as Rascians or Rassiyans (land workers) the military known as Serbs came later.......in the beginning Rassiyans had no need for military defence, all around were Rassiyans! & Pro. Therefore, up until that period everyone knew that south Slavs were actually Illyrians. These territories roughly correspond to territories formerly inhabited by Thraco-Illyrians in the south and Schytian-Sarmatians in the north. Since about 1000 BC local cultures developed with continuity into the Iron Age (8th-6th century BC). In the period from the beginnings until the collapse of the Illyrian kingdom, the Illyrians showed themselves in varying alliances with tribes of common or similar origin and language. The unifying factor was mainly the locally varying degree of Romanisation. and all known and unknown peoples). Iliri su Slaveni / Illyrians are Slavs. Illyrian is an Indo-European language, and is closest related to Messapian in southern Italy (Puglia). Some remnants of their languages seems to be present in Albanian and Romanian languages who are probably closest relatives of those people. It is not possible to give an exact date of the establishment of the province of Illyricum: according to Theodor Mommsen the province of Sulla might have been created. In the Notitia dignitatum (around 395 A.D.) the prefecture of Illyricum orientale includes the dioceses of Macedonia (with Greece) and Dacia, while the diocese of Illyricum occidentale is part of the prefecture of Italia, with the two provinces of Noricum, the four of Pannonia and Dalmatia, but without Praevalitana. Welcome Guest. Even in antiquity, little education was attributed to these rulers, but on the other hand, familiarity with military service and excellent aptitude for state administration. The proponents of this theory base this on some lexical and grammatical similarities between the Romanian and Albanian languages, which can be traced back to an Old Balkan substrate. 9 особа прича о овоме. The only serious Slavic land in south balkans who respects other Slavs. Illyrians were attributed to south slavs in specific Serbs and Croats, Illyrianism being the essence behind Yugoslavia (South Slavia). Among them were the Dalmatians in central Dalmatia, the Liburnians (northwest Dalmatia), Taulantians (northern Albania), Breukians (on the lower course of the Sava, Sirmies), Japods (western Bosnia), Paeonians (northeast of Macedonia), and others. - 14 A.D.) the name Illyricum no longer had anything to do with the originally Illyrian territory in the south of Dalmatia; since 32 B.C. Serbs, Bulgarians, Croats are Slavic people. When I see a GOOD nice German, I know there is a SERB inside. Germanic Tribes The language of the Venetians, who are widespread in northeastern Italy, is also closely related. Furthermore, all Slavs formerly lived in the Balkans and were known by the ancient authors as the Illyrians. The name Illyricum was now used for other administrative units. But the conquest of the whole area inhabited by Illyrians lasted even longer. Important notice: the following results are only from the Orthodox population of Serbia which is why R1a is higher that average results and E1b is lower The haplogroups that make the Serbian genetic pool are as follows: I2a1b-L621: 32.49% – Sclavenian (South Slavic) R1a: 23.48% – “North“ Slavic (more common for western and eastern Slavs, southern Slavs are usually I2a) Historical influences on Albanian came from Latin, Greek, the southern Slavic contact languages and Turkish. The Dardanians, for example, are thought to have been a Thracian tribe whose culture was transformed by the Illyrian one. Following the failed "Pannonian revolt" (8 AD), an intensive Romanisation of the towns in Illyria began. They didn't know about these people till around the 18th century. The Romans conducted their campaigns mainly from their bases on the Italian Adriatic coast, but also from the Gallia Cisalpina. The proponents of the South Slavic national movements (especially among Croats) claimed that their people were descended from the Illyrians and propagated the cultural, ethnic and political unity of all South Slavs. You will receive an additional list of other relatives of the paternal line (men) OR the maternal line (women). The hypothesis of Dacian descent assumes that the ancestors of the Albanians immigrated from the north-east and that they are hardly romanized Dacians. The Illyrians were assimilated by the Roman colonists and probably by other people too. srbin.info/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/2-21.jpg, mondo.rs/Magazin/Stil/a1344295/Srbi-oterani-iz-Grcke-deportovani-zbog-koroneletovanje.html, illyria.proboards.com/thread/40452/common-chit-chat-thread. The first misconception concerns the never-ending disputation between the … This mans health got worse after few days, now he is in Serbian hospital. "Illyris" (as the Greek name suggests) was, according to Strabon (around 20 B.C. But only the southeastern regions of the Adriatic coast with hinterland can be rightly called Illyrian. When in the last quarter of the 6th century the Danube region was devastated by Slavic, Avaric and Hunnish attackers and finally escaped imperial control for a long time, the area lost its importance as a recruitment area for the army. Illirians and Thracians are extinct cultures. Ordered by 55% of customers for an origins analysis. Since there are only very few sources, exclusively short inscriptions as well as individual place, people and person names for the Illyrian language, a proof is very difficult. The Illyrians are a group of people which inhabited the northwestern part of the Balkan Peninsula, from the 10th century bce onward before Slavs invaded the Balkan Peninsula, and dispersed Illyrians south of the land to the highlands of Kosovo and Albania, they are one of the oldest Indo-European people. & Pro. The Illyrians were not an ethnically homogeneous people, but a confederation of different tribes. The name of the Illyrians became the name for many neighbouring tribes that were only loosely connected with them. Albos came from Asia in 10th century. The disease? Not even close. croatian historian and scientist: „history teaches us that the ancient Illyrians were Slavs.“ In the course of the 3rd century the Danube region had become one of the most important recruitment areas for the imperial army. Aboriginal Australians Arabs Berbers Chinese Dacians Etruscans Iberians Indigenous peoples of the Americas Inka Inuit Italic peoples Japanese people Kurds Ligures Maya Mongols Oceanic tribes Persians Romani people Scythians Slavs Tibetans Phoenicians Indians Koreans Bantus Turkic peoples Sámi people Illyrians Vandals Balts Macedonians Hellenes Huns Thracians Finno-Ugric peoples Indo-Europeans. The term "Illyria" was also used in late antiquity to describe the western Balkan peninsula. The hypothesis of Illyrian descent is based on the assumption that there is a remaining Illyrian population in the Albanian highlands, which survived the upheavals of the migration of peoples (4th to 6th century). The more northern Illyrians were probably proto-Illyrians. Slavs (Bosniacs, Croats, Serbs) and other Roman tribes mixed with these early inhabitants. Iliri su slavenskog roda i jezika, povijest Ilira je povijest naših drevnih slavenskih predaka Iliri su slavenskog roda i jezika, povijest Ilira je povijest naših drevnih slavenskih predaka at the whole topic of this thread and of this Aussie serb promoting Alb heroes, Illyria Forums (Balkans/Mediterraneans/World), Hellenism - Civilization's Alpha & Omega -, Hellenism and Today = Western or Modern Civilization, Hellenism - Illyria Forums Participants Philosophy Debate, Eastern (& Slavic) Europe (RUSSIA, Ukr, Pol, Cze, etc), BOARDS: REGIONAL - WEST (ROMAN) MEDITERRANEAN, BOARDS: REGIONAL - S & E 'MEDS' (N. AFRICA & W. ASIA), BOARDS: REGIONAL - 'MEDS' IN AMERICAS & S.PACIFIC, Nordic Europe (Ire, UK, Ger, Scandinavia etc), East Asia (Chi, Jap, Kor, Thai, Phi, etc), Physical (Racial) Anthropology - Discussion, Alternative Theories(Aliens,Atlantis,etc. no sine moj. 1,8 хиљ. The northern Albanian mountainous region had remained untouched by the Slavic land grab at the end of the migration period (from the 6th century). Since the 1830s there have been efforts in the Balkan Peninsula to trace the origins of their own people back to ancient peoples. From then on, most of the army commanders came from Asia Minor, and the time of the Illyrian emperors had also come to an end. For a long time, this area was not really dominated by either empire and thus offered opportunities for the development of an independent culture. South Slavs mixed mostly with Vlachs and Albanians, both of those are a mixture of other folks (Illyrians, Thracians, Dardanians e.g. Illyrian linguistic endeavours led to the emergence of the Serbo-Croatian language, Serbo-Croats and Yugoslavs respectively. The series begins with Decius (249-251 AD), but essentially comprises the emperors Claudius Gothicus (268-270), Aurelian (270-276), Probus (276-282), Diocletian (284-305), Maximianus (286-305) and Constantine (306-337). Pol. The Illyrians fled to the walled cities of Thrace and Anatolia & Southern Greece. My I2a2b is Slavic, my autosomal DNA is Albanian. Send the samples with the envelop included in the sampling kit. & Pro. From this settlement symbiosis, in the area of northern Albania, the Albanian people emerged, in whose collective ethnicity the traces of Illyrianism have been preserved. The relationship of the ancient Illyrians to the Albanians is controversial in research. 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